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“Fake” nieuws is het toverwoord deze dagen. Het begon in Amerika en nu is ook Europa en Nederland is er ook mee besmet lijkt het. Het gaat over niets anders als “nep” nieuws, zijn het geen “trollen” , dan hebben de Russen het wel gedaan!
Zo verscheen er gisteren in de New York times het volgende artikel: https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/16/world/europe/russia-ukraine-fake-news-dutch-vote.html.
De titel van het artikel: Fake News, Fake Ukrainians: How a Group of Russians Tilted a Dutch Vote.
De strekking is (beknopt) als volgt:
Harry van Bommel (SP buitenlandse zaken) zou in de maling genomen zijn door Russische spionnen, die in Nederland wonen, om zo de uitkomst van het Oekraïne referendum te beïnvloeden, wat absurd is. Ik ken toevallig deze zogenaamde “Russische spionnen”, die niets meer zijn dan een groep Russen, die al een lange tijd in Nederland wonen en zich hard maken voor hun land – Rusland, de regering o.l.v. Poetin steunen, ik heb met hen nog gedemonstreerd in den Haag, afgelopen oktober 2016 , tegen de oorlogen van de VS en als dank aan Rusland dat Syrië helpt in de strijd tegen IS en andere terroristische organisaties, zoals Al-Nusra en Al-Queda, die op haar beurt de VS en Europa ondersteunen. Dat maakt mij zeker ook een spion, een dubbel spion Rusland en Syrië, ik waan me net in een “James Bond” film, OO7 in actie!
Het is een ordinaire leugen, zoals zoveel deze dagen, als je iets positiefs zegt over Rusland ben je een spion.Wie is er nu hetze begonnen? Het westen, ze willen waarschijnlijk gewoon een oorlog met Rusland, het nare soevereine land moet op de knieen , ze helpen Syrië en de boze dictator Assad, er zijn zelfs nieuwe: Poetin en Trump. Zucht daar gaan we weer al 6 jaar deze retoriek en ze krijgen er maar geen genoeg van! Joseph Goebbels (propaganda minister onder Hitler) zou erg blij zijn met deze ontwikkelingen
Ook politici als Thierry Baudet en Geert Wilders worden genoemd. Geert Wilders komt er nog “mild” vanaf, hij zou geen aanwijsbare banden hebben met Moskou. Thierry Baudet wel, hij zou ook in het “complot” zitten van de Russen, die alles opgezet zouden hebben om Harry van Bommel en Thierry Baudet te laten geloven dat de Oekraïners “nep” waren (dat heet de tegenpartij dus het JA kamp) en eigenlijk dus Russen waren, die zogenaamd ook voor een NEE waren in het referendum.
Eigenlijk een ziek verhaal, met beschuldigingen uit de lucht gegrepen, de zogenaamde “elite” bezondigd zich overduidelijk aan “NEPNIEUWS”, en een krant als de New York Times, schrijft nu zelf “nepnieuws”.
Ze zouden kunnen checken met de Russen in Nederland, of het allemaal wel waar is en de feiten boven tafel krijgen. Dit hebben ze niet gedaan en produceren nu zelf “nepnieuws”. Zo wordt een bevolking opgehitst deze “rommel” te lezen en de politiek nog ongeloofwaardiger!
Nikita Antanev, een Russische student, al 15 jaar in Nederland, onderhoudt nog banden met Rusland, logisch toch? Wordt genoemd als een spion, belachelijk. Nikita ken ik als een zeer betrouwbare Student met interesse gebied politiek en handel!
Ik denk dat deze onzin op moet houden, het Nederlandse volk, de politiek zijn er niet gebaad bij en het geeft nog meer onrust. Slecht voor de “elite”, daar bedoel ik de Nederlandse politici (de gevestigde politieke kartel partijen, zoals Thierry Baudet het zo goed aangeeft) en media (NPO, Volkskrant, NRC) mee, die leven in een “schijnwereld”, maar de bevolking is wakker!
Hieronder het artikel van de New York Times:
Fake News, Fake Ukrainians: How a Group of Russians Tilted a Dutch Vote
February 16, 2017
THE HAGUE — Harry van Bommel, a left-wing member of the Dutch Parliament, had persuasive allies in convincing voters that they should reject a trade pact with Ukraine — his special “Ukrainian team,” a gleefully contrarian group of émigrés whose sympathies lay with Russia.
They attended public meetings, appeared on television and used social media to denounce Ukraine’s pro-Western government as a bloodthirsty kleptocracy, unworthy of Dutch support. As Mr. Van Bommel recalled, it “was very handy to show that not all Ukrainians were in favor.”
Handy but also misleading: The most active members of the Ukrainian team were actually from Russia, or from Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine, and parroted the Kremlin line.
The Dutch referendum, held last April, became a battering ram aimed at the European Union. With turnout low, Dutch voters rejected the trade agreement between the European Union and Ukraine, delighting Moscow, emboldening pro-Russia populists around Europe and leaving political elites aghast.
It is unclear whether the Ukrainian team was directed by Russia or if it was acting out of shared sympathies, and Mr. Van Bommel said he never checked their identities. But Europe’s political establishment, already rattled by Britain’s vote to leave the European Union and the election of President Trump in the United States, is worried that the Netherlands referendum could foreshadow what is to come.
With elections slated for France, Germany and possibly Italy this year, officials across Europe are warning that the Russians are actively interfering, echoing the Central Intelligence Agency’s assertions that Moscow meddled in the United States presidential election.
Norway announced this month that Russia-linked hackers had attacked government ministries and a political party. Britain’s defense minister has accused Moscow of “weaponizing disinformation.” German, French and Italian officials have also accused Russia-linked partisans of meddling.
The Netherlands is holding its own national elections on March 15, and domestic intelligence officials say that foreign countries, notably Russia, have tried hundreds of times in recent months to penetrate the computers of government agencies and businesses. Volkskrant, a Dutch newspaper, reported last week that the same two Russian hacking groups that pilfered emails from the Democratic National Committee were among those targeting the Netherlands.
The Dutch interior minister announced that all vote tallies in the March election would be done by hand so as to remove computers from the electoral process and calm fears of hacking by unidentified “state actors.”
“Those in power are very worried — there is more than ample reason for alarm over interference in elections,” said Sijbren de Jong of the Hague Center for Strategic Studies, a research group in The Hague, the seat of the Dutch government. “But the real risk are populists who run, knowingly or unwittingly, with Russia’s agenda because they know it is damaging to the status quo in Europe that they want to destroy. All Russia really needs to do is sit back and let populists do their bidding.”
No one has yet come up with concrete evidence that the Russian state, rather than individual Russians, is working to skew the election, and many wonder why Moscow would even bother trying to do so in a small country with none of the geopolitical heft of the United States or Germany. But Mr. de Jong said the referendum last year showed that “a little effort goes a long way” and could help “destroy the European Union from inside.”
The Netherlands should be difficult terrain for Russia. Last year, the Dutch Safety Board linked Russia to the death of 298 people — including nearly 200 Dutch nationals — in a passenger plane flying from Amsterdam that was shot down in July 2014 over territory held by Russian-armed rebels in eastern Ukraine.
The finding was a public relations disaster for Moscow, and Russian hackers have attacked computers at the Dutch agency, while Russian sympathizers in the Netherlands, including members of Mr. Van Bommel’s Ukrainian team, have labored tirelessly to promote implausible alternative theories for the downing of the Boeing jet carrying Malaysia Airlines Flight 17.
Even Geert Wilders, the country’s anti-Europe, anti-immigrant, anti-establishment firebrand, has kept a distance from Moscow, unlike populist leaders in France and Italy. Yet if Mr. Wilders, whose party is leading in opinion polls, is not an ally, his Euroskeptic agenda dovetails perfectly with the Kremlin’s broader agenda to weaken the European Union and shatter European unity against Russia.
Sico van der Meer, a research fellow at the Netherlands Institute of International Relations, said Russia viewed the West as an adversary and had a clear interest in seeing the election of anti-establishment populists who, no matter what their personal take on Russia, all want to undermine the European Union and, in some cases, NATO.
Russians, he added, “believe that making your enemy weaker makes yourself stronger.”
The Dutch intelligence agency, the AIVD, in a publicly released assessment of Russian activities, agreed that measuring the scale of any state-sponsored Russian interference was extremely difficult, as Moscow’s effort to shape public opinion “takes place in a twilight zone between diplomacy and intelligence.”
But the report also noted that the Netherlands had been targeted as part of a “global campaign to influence policy and perceptions on Russia” and, as part of this effort, Moscow had made use of a “network of contacts built up over the years.”
One such contact is Vladimir Kornilov, a Russian-born historian and political analyst who grew up in eastern Ukraine and now lives in The Hague, where he runs a one-man research outfit called the Center for Eurasian Studies. Emails stolen by a pro-Ukrainian hacking group show how Mr. Kornilov offered information and advice to politicians and others in Moscow during his previous work at a Russian-funded research institute in Kiev.
Before the Dutch referendum last year, Mr. Kornilov campaigned against the Ukraine trade deal, describing himself benignly as “a Ukrainian expat in The Hague” who was “stunned by the seemingly endless stream of lies and propaganda” about Russia and felt obliged to respond.
“After the referendum here, everybody thought this was just a Dutch problem, but now we see it was just the beginning,” Mr. Kornilov said in an interview, denying any financial or other links to the Russian state. “There is a huge crisis in the European Union.”
Nor did he agitate alone. He contacted Mr. Van Bommel as well as Thierry Baudet, the head of a conservative research group, Forum for Democracy, which he has since converted into a political party that takes Russia’s side on a host of issues and is competing for seats in the March election on a platform of hostility to the European Union.
During the referendum campaign, Mr. Baudet posted a Twitter message saying that Ukraine “is not a nation state” and retweeted a false report that Ukrainian soldiers had crucified a 3-year-old Russian-speaking boy in eastern Ukraine. The crucifixion story began with an invented report by Russia’s main state-controlled television channel, which interviewed a supposed Ukrainian witness to the crucifixion who was later identified as a Russian actress.
The bogus crucifixion story circulated through social media and was followed by an even more blatant exercise in fake news, when a video appeared on YouTube that purported to show members of the Azov Battalion, a group of Ukrainian militants, burning the Dutch flag and threatening terrorist attacks if Dutch voters did not support Ukraine.
The video was quickly dismissed as a fraud and was later linked by Bellingcat, a British-based investigative website, to a so-called troll factory in St. Petersburg, a Russian institute that churns out fake news and abuses Russia’s critics online, using social media as a distribution system.
“All the Kremlin has to do is click like or retweet and then sit back and say ‘thank you,’” said Mr. de Jong, the researcher.
The anonymity of the internet, he added, makes it difficult to distinguish between ordinary people voicing their genuine opinions and state-sponsored trolls. “There is no smoking gun, only lots of smoke,” Mr. de Jong acknowledged.
Mr. Baudet, in an interview in Amsterdam, denied spouting Russia propaganda and said he was merely trying to counter what he called “Europe’s remarkable Russophobia” and to make sure that Russia’s side of the story did not get drowned out.
Ukraine did send officials and activists to the Netherlands to lobby support for a “yes” vote, presenting Ukraine as a victim of Russian aggression. But, unlike some activists on the other side, they openly declared their identities and affiliation.
Michiel Servaes, a Labor Party member of Parliament, campaigned in favor of the pact with Ukraine and said people like Mr. Baudet promoted a narrative that was “word for word what would be used by a spokesman from the Kremlin.” He recalled facing a barrage of criticism at one public meeting from a member of the audience who introduced herself as a Ukrainian but who turned out to be Russian.
Bron: New York Times